It's called "The Western Force". I'd have thought he could have cribbed that from the letterhead on his job offer.
April Wallaby 30 Man Squad
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Chilla Wilson (44)
Just go ahead and ruin all my fun then Cyclo. 
Captain Buzzkill here!!Just go ahead and ruin all my fun then Cyclo.
These are all either back from injury well before the tour (or already) and have been consistent members of the Wallabies in recent years (e.g. Barnes and TPN).
Thinking they weren't going to be selected because they haven't played much in the early rounds of the season is ridiculous.
Barnes will play fullback in the first test provided he doesn't suffer another injury prior to the series.
Scoey
Tony Shaw (54)
What you say is true BH but for some (at least for me) the inclusion of some players that have featured consistently in the Wallabies recently isn't something that over joys me. Not necessarily because of any shortcomings from particular players but from the continual use of the excuse last year for our less than positive season, that we've had so many injuries.
I guess this year was holding the promise of an exciting new team, full of running, full of attack or even full of players that look like they know each other, but it looks a hell of a lot like last years team that played some of the most conservative and unimaginative Rugby I have ever seen.
For these reasons, the reactions of some probably aren't ridiculous. Unfounded maybe, but ridiculous probably not.
Barnes played the best tests at fullback by a Wallaby last year since Beale was in peak form in 2010.
You'd be crazy to select a debutant with questionable defence at fullback for the first Lions test. It would be a trainwreck waiting to happen.
James O'Connor has been a Wallaby star in recent years but was made to look like a fool when he was thrown in at the deep end at fullback against the All Blacks. It just isn't a good idea.
I still think one of Mogg or Folau is a very good chance at being a bench player to provide attacking spark late in a game.
You'd be crazy to select a debutant with questionable defence at fullback for the first Lions test. It would be a trainwreck waiting to happen.
James O'Connor has been a Wallaby star in recent years but was made to look like a fool when he was thrown in at the deep end at fullback against the All Blacks. It just isn't a good idea.
I still think one of Mogg or Folau is a very good chance at being a bench player to provide attacking spark late in a game.
thierry dusautoir
Alan Cameron (40)
I wouldn't have qualms with people like TPN, Barnes and McCabe selection if they had played a few games. Although not my first choice I get the fact that they are people who get the systems and have played before.
But on this 'tried, tested and proven' train of thought, wouldn't it have made sense to choose untried players for this camp? who have been playing? I doubt deans is going to try new systems, so it's doubtful they would miss out on anything they don't already know.
I just think the logistics camp would have been a good opportunity to invite in your people like Hanson, Cooper, Godwin and Pyle and introduce them to the systems.
At least that way if a load of injuries occur by the time the final squad is called deans has a greater pool of people up to date on his systems to select from.
I guess Barnes, TPN and McCabe are pretty much guaranteed members of the 30 man squad if they are healthy.
That's probably what you can take out of that.
I imagine if Horwill was still in a moonboot with a return for a couple of weeks time, he'd have still been here for the camp.
That's probably what you can take out of that.
I imagine if Horwill was still in a moonboot with a return for a couple of weeks time, he'd have still been here for the camp.
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
So Mogg to play fullback with Folau on the bench then?
swingpass
Peter Sullivan (51)
this list is pretty much what you would expect. proven (i use the word lightly) wallabies and one or two in form others, mogg, leali'ifano, sio, auelua, plus the "big" signing (rightly or wrongly he fill figure in the advertising even if not in the games themselves). a few are lucky based on their current form/fitness and there are a couple of blokes playing well who should have been invited perhaps, eg, pyle, mmm, ryan
the selectors are always going to pick the old hands first if they are fit and no-one else is playing outstandingly well in that position
ps i really think cooper should be in
the selectors are always going to pick the old hands first if they are fit and no-one else is playing outstandingly well in that position
ps i really think cooper should be in
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yeahh.... cant see us beating the Lions with that squad :/
BDA
Jim Lenehan (48)
Jeez I can't believe the level of outrage on the front page over this.
Firstly- it's a 30 man squad. People get so up in arms when there is ONE player they don't like (eg Berrick Barnes or TPN), and all of a sudden ROBBIE DEANS IS A FAILURE. Fuck me.
Secondly- I reckon this is the best 30 man squad I have seen from Robbie. Form players have been rewarded. Old hands have largely been picked, but a few undeserving ones have been left out (Horne, Kepu etc).
Really only Quade and maybe Drew Mitchell can consider themselves unlucky.
I reckon he's got it about 90% right here.
And yet the tirades against Deans, I can't believe it!
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Firstly- it's a 30 man squad. People get so up in arms when there is ONE player they don't like (eg Berrick Barnes or TPN), and all of a sudden ROBBIE DEANS IS A FAILURE. Fuck me.
Secondly- I reckon this is the best 30 man squad I have seen from Robbie. Form players have been rewarded. Old hands have largely been picked, but a few undeserving ones have been left out (Horne, Kepu etc).
Really only Quade and maybe Drew Mitchell can consider themselves unlucky.
I reckon he's got it about 90% right here.
And yet the tirades against Deans, I can't believe it!
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
I have to agree.
I hold no love for Deans, but this is a good squad.
I would try to find room for Mafi and Mitchell though.........
And definitely MMM when fit.........
Richo
John Thornett (49)
That's why I avoid the comments on the front page, barbs. There are some good thoughts there, but too often there's too much utter dribble. Not sure what some people expected, really. Presumably NOO WARATARDS COS THAY IS DBUM, but other than that, it's not really clear. Who, exactly, is so absolutely deserving but missed out on an invitation to a bloody logistics camp?
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Dick Tooth (41)
No. Which is a huge shame as he's the best wing in Australia by a distance at the moment.
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