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Alan Jones says Burgess is a scapegoat for our fowards being shit

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fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e-teams-failures/story-e6frey4i-1225768884653

Former Wallabies coach Alan Jones says Luke Burgess has been made a scapegoat for the team's failures

* By Jon Geddes

Luke Burgess

Scapegoat...former Wallabies coach Alan Jones says halfback Luke Burgess has been placed under constant pressure by an under-performing forward pack. Source: AP

GRAND Slam-winning Wallabies coach Alan Jones has spoken up for dumped Wallabies halfback Luke Burgess, saying that he has been under constant pressure because of the performance of the players around him.

And he has no doubts the under-siege Waratahs No. 9 will fight his way back into the Test starting side.

"If you don't have a lot of organisation outside you and if you don't have any domination in front of you it would be hard for Mother Teresa," Jones said last night.

After four Tri-Nations defeats Burgess lost his starting spot to Queenslander Will Genia for Saturday's Test against the Springboks in Brisbane.

"It is easy to make the bloke who has the first use of the ball the scapegoat, but it is what type of ball we are giving this person," Jones said.

He said like George Gregan before him, Burgess had to deal with a Wallabies forward pack that was on the back foot.

"If you want to win matches at this level you have to assert the supremacy up front," Jones said.

"He (Burgess) is under constant pressure because the forward pack are not winning the encounters.

"Your natural game can't find expression while they are disorganised outside and the crowd in front are not in charge.

"It was the same criticism of Gregan - the forward pack was being driven backwards and he was being blamed for the kind of ball he delivered."

Jones said what tended to be forgotten was that some of the Wallabies' scorelines would be far worse if not for Burgess' defence.

"Of course he will bounce back, he is a class player and he has all the skills," Jones said.

"David Campese was dropped from the Test team, Mark Ella was dropped and Luke would be modest enough to concede they were better players than he is.

"You get dropped, you fight your way back, that is part of the deal. But it doesn't solve the problem."

And Jones also said there was no harm in coach Robbie Deans having a look at Genia starting at No. 9.

"That is part of the whole business and Luke would understand that," Jones said.

Burgess did not want to speak yesterday, preferring to focus all his energies into Saturday's Test.

But former Waratahs coach Ewen McKenzie believes coming off the bench could be the tonic Burgess needs to revitalise his game.

"Maybe that might take the pressure off him and and he can spark it up himself and be a very good impact player," McKenzie said.

"I don't think at this point in time it is going to do him any harm.

"He is on the wrong side of public opinion and pressure and obviously now from the selectors.

"A change in the routine for him might be a good thing."

McKenzie said Burgess has had to fight pretty hard to get to the top and that quality will come to the fore again, "Do you become a bad player overnight? I don't think so," he said.
 

Epi

Dave Cowper (27)
I'm not sure passing was a strong point in Mother Teresa's game either...
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Scarfman said:
I've added the official "Jones" icon for this thread. Seems appropriate.

Yeah the concept of having Alan Jones behind you would be disconcerting
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
It's Luke I feel sorry for. Imagine being "mentored" by Jones.

Why dones't he mentor some of the ugly players?
 

naza

Alan Cameron (40)
Excellent points by Jones & Link - right on the money. Burgess is a gem.
 
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Spook

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He also got dropped by the Tahs and their forwards were on top most of the time. He's useless - nice bloke though.
 

Thomond78

Colin Windon (37)
I have taken a swift look at Ireland's EOYT programme.

I will therefore say this, that Alan Jones' incisive rugby brain has spotted the obvious; Burgess is simply splendid and must stay, especially for the tour, and that only if Sharpe and Dunning are recalled can Australia hope to regain their rightful place in world rugby.

That is all.
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Thommo! When I saw your name there I thought it would be in relation to your role as GaGR's legal counsel. You know, advising me not to suggest that Alan Jones is a toilet trader who would be in the same jail as Oscar Wilde were it not for some mates in high places.

Not that I was suggesting that.
 
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OZGOD

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Underperforming forward pack...now where have I heard that before??
 
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Calexico

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"suggest that Alan Jones is a toilet trader who would be in the same jail as Oscar Wilde were it not for some mates in high places."

:lmao:

Thanks Scarfman - you provided some much needed humour on a otherwise painful work day.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
Scarfman said:
Thommo! When I saw your name there I thought it would be in relation to your role as GaGR's legal counsel. You know, advising me not to suggest that Alan Jones is a toilet trader who would be in the same jail as Oscar Wilde were it not for some mates in high places.

Not that I was suggesting that.

Now that's an interesting analogy and definitely one for the memory bank.

As a "new" Australian I have no prior knowledge / baggage with Jones.

But I have to say when he talks I tend to want to hit mute. A bit too much self love goign on there.
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Jonestown by Chris Masters.

In 2002, Masters profiled radio personality Alan Jones for an episode of Four Corners, and then went on to write a biography titled Jonestown: The Power and the Myth of Alan Jones, his third book to date. On 29 June 2006, ABC Enterprises decided to cancel publication of Masters' manuscript; ABC Enterprises director Robyn Watts stated that publication was being withdrawn because it would "almost certainly result in commercial loss, which would be irresponsible". This was widely believed to be a veiled reference to the fact that Jones' lawyers had threatened an expensive defamation lawsuit if the book reached publication. ABC program Media Watch reported that the decision to cancel publication had been made not by ABC Enterprises but by the ABC Board. Many ABC personalities have criticized the Board's decision, and indeed wrote a petition against it, with signatories including Richard Glover and Phillip Adams.

Mike Carlton, a Sydney radio broadcaster and rival to Jones, suggested on 2UE during his show of 5 July 2006 that the book might detail homosexual encounters on Jones' part and Jones' lawyers had told the ABC that Masters' materials were "replete with false and inappropriate sexual innuendo". Certainly, in Jonestown Masters advances the theory that Jones' attempt to deny his sexuality is a defining feature of his personality, and provides an explanation for many aspects of his behaviour - including, for example, his interest in mentoring young male athletes. His explanation of much about Jones by reference to his sexuality left Masters open to charges of homophobia, which friendly commentators (in an ironic effort to defend Jones' reputation) have exploited.

The ABC's refusal to publish the book did not delay it for long; Masters had little difficulty in finding publishers willing to take it on, and Allen & Unwin released it in October 2006. Lengthy excerpts were also published in The Sydney Morning Herald.

Excerpt here: http://www.smh.com.au/news/national...1160851142104.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
He's been at it (mentoring that is) since he was a high school teacher, having long talks with his disciples in his car after training.

I don't think there has ever been any mention of inappropriate conduct, just a little um creepy.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Blue said:
...Jones...when he talks I tend to want to hit mute. A bit too much self love going on there.

One thing you should know about Australian rugby, Blue, there's not much love of Alan Jones to be had. In fact the mere mention of his name around most rugby folk would give rise to doubts about your bona fides. But to listen to him, well really, that's beyond the pale. Banishment looms I'm afraid. :bootyshake :nono :cyclops
 
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rugbywhisperer

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Now come on Lindo - what was that behind the stand at Concord oval all those years ago - hey - that's your home ground isn't it?
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
Lindommer said:
Blue said:
...Jones...when he talks I tend to want to hit mute. A bit too much self love going on there.

One thing you should know about Australian rugby, Blue, there's not much love of Alan Jones to be had. In fact the mere mention of his name around most rugby folk would give rise to doubts about your bona fides. But to listen to him, well really, that's beyond the pale. Banishment looms I'm afraid. :bootyshake :nono :cyclops


:lmao:

Don't worry I think I'll resort to some sort of self harm if I ever knowingly tuned in.

Shees Scarfman that's heavy duty stuff. Figured there could be a hint of tailgunner happening there.

Never trust a man who wears cream colored suits unless his name is Richie Benaud.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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rugbywhisperer said:
Now come on Lindo - what was that behind the stand at Concord Oval all those years ago - hey - that's your home ground isn't it?

Innocent, I tell yers, I'm innocent. It wasn't me. But I pity the poor bastard it was. :-X :-X :-X
 
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