2024 Under 20 Rugby Champs all match discussion thread
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Dick Tooth (41)
Injured. He and that injured Melbourne #8 would add a lot to this team.
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Steve Williams (59)
Leafi Talataina
Steve_Grey
Darby Loudon (17)
That's the issue in a nutshell (for NSW) - players selected into Gen Blue were then auto-rolled into Waratahs Academy without checks and balances, without looking at the Shute Shield Colts later developers.
To add insult to proverbial injury, last year's NSW U19s coach chose many of his own inferior Sydney Uni players, blocking others from showcasing their abilities - the 2nd row and back row were (and still are) the weak areas for NSW from Gen Blue / Waratahs Academy.
Rudderless
Trevor Allan (34)
Exactly. Players from Syd Uni Seconds Colts were chosen into the u19 NSW squad over quality players outside of the Eastern Suburb bubble.
Brumbies won the u19 Comp.
Brumbies won the u19 Comp.
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Steve_Grey
Darby Loudon (17)
The knock-on effect from this (for NSW) is those ignored/unseen players never had the chance to impress selectors for JWBs as N Grey only chose NSW players from Waratahs Academy (where his assistant coach is the HP Director).
Were/are they better than the Waratahs Academy incumbents? Some likely yes, especially in the back row and 2nd row, but we'll never really know.
Perhaps pre-season trials would have resolved these issues.
Were/are they better than the Waratahs Academy incumbents? Some likely yes, especially in the back row and 2nd row, but we'll never really know.
Perhaps pre-season trials would have resolved these issues.
Wallaby Man
Nev Cottrell (35)
The reality tho is the Gen Blue team would dust SS teams. The difference is how professional our players are the moment they leave school, it’s half baked here because we don’t have the money to pump into our players at that leave beyond a select few. SS might be the answer in another form but what it’s been historically and what it is now isn’t to standard for what’s required to develop players in a heavily professional sport in 2024. They don’t have the resources to be anything more than it currently is.
Rudderless
Trevor Allan (34)
Round 3 (AEST)
This Tuesday 9th
- Ireland v Australia 10pm (Pool B)
- Argentina v Fiji 10pm (Pool C)
Wednesday 10th
- France v Wales 12.30am (Pool A)
- Georgia v Italy 12.30am (Pool B)
- South Africa v England 3am (Pool C)
- New Zealand v Spain 3am (Pool A)
This Tuesday 9th
- Ireland v Australia 10pm (Pool B)
- Argentina v Fiji 10pm (Pool C)
Wednesday 10th
- France v Wales 12.30am (Pool A)
- Georgia v Italy 12.30am (Pool B)
- South Africa v England 3am (Pool C)
- New Zealand v Spain 3am (Pool A)
Bob Peters
Allen Oxlade (6)
Simple equation for the Junior Wallabies. Win by 8 points and guaranteed place in the final four.
Need some serious improvement (understatement), but given Georgia played all over Ireland - who had to score after full-time to win the game - we will certainly need a bit of luck (and a dry pitch) to have a chance based on what we’ve seen so far.
Need some serious improvement (understatement), but given Georgia played all over Ireland - who had to score after full-time to win the game - we will certainly need a bit of luck (and a dry pitch) to have a chance based on what we’ve seen so far.
Steve_Grey
Darby Loudon (17)
Agreed - any of the top 4 SS would smash Gen Blue - nothing of note in the Waratahs Academy front 5, and a horribly weak back row. Reckon even a 'best of' SS Colts would beat them - they could trial that as an idea.
Steve_Grey
Darby Loudon (17)
If it is wet, I reckon we'll be in trouble - dry and an outside chance.
Bob Peters
Allen Oxlade (6)
100%. It’s getting predictable.
Cockatoo Run
Chris McKivat (8)
Due to the tournament rules, Junior Wallabies only have to win the game to progress to the last four, as teams on level points at the end of the pool phase don't progress on for/against, but who won the 'head to head' game. We can be thankful we got a bonus point vs Italy and Georgia denied Ireland a bonus point.
I'd imagine tough selection calls were Tiitii over Goddard, and extra backrower over Staniforth as the extra back given the 6-2 bench. Weather forecast looks a bit grim, which doesn't usually suit us.
I'm sure we would all wish Lachie Hooper, Leafi Talaitana, Max Jorgensen, Jack Barrett, Junior Alatini, Hwi Sharples etc. were there, but that's life and injuries happen. Good luck boys, rip in!
Rudderless
Trevor Allan (34)
I believe it’s Shannon Fraser
So BobbyD are you saying everything is fine at our elite level carry on?? Lets keep it on the topic and not make it personal. Everyone is entitled to their opinion its a Rugby forum.