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Strategic plan in 2007? There was a 3rd tier in existence then wasn't there? The 3rd tier is abolished in the first year of the plan, with no new focus on junior development or greater priority to Shute Shield, or any mention of a introducing a low cost imitation of the 3rd tier for another 5...

Burgess has been capped, been there done that got the trip shirt,he is four years older than the guy in front of him.He is in the autumn years as a footballer. Who would not bugger off to Europe for the big bucks in this situation?

it's too frustrating to debate with you, so i will concentrate on the bits I agree with I don't think JON will be retiring in the foreseeable future

Bad news WJ The tooth fairy is a myth Santa Claus is not real JON is not perfect. He is just giving lip service to a notion of 3rd Tier. FFS the ARC was 5 year ago, in that time he has only ever stated that a 3rd tier was unaffordable, on his way out the door he makes vague statements about a...

You have obviously never been on the slopes boyo. Boarders don't apologise, they use your body as leverage,so they can get up easier and continue down the hill looking for other slow moving targets.

Working on what? The blueprint involves 2 clubs that didn't rank in the top 6 of a weak Club comp. These 2 clubs are also broke. Either JON came up with that flimsy plan on his way to the office on his last day,or he is completely incompetent. Which one do you think it is WJ? Edit: I was wrong...

I'm not disputing or challenging any changes to the site.I was only commenting on whether a reasonably made point was deserving of a fair hearing. You guys make any changes you like, I have no problem with that at all. Obviously the intentions are good, which is always a good base from which to...

Why doesn't he deserve a fair hearing? His points were well made, he wasn't abusive. There is no point to a forum if everyone must be of the same view.It turns a forum into a blog.

He names 3 Sydney Clubs, 2 of which are either broke or teetering on the edge.The same 2 clubs did not finish in the top 6 this year. He definitely has his finger on the pulse.One of these clubs did not even qualify for his top up this year! It's obvious he has not given a thought to the Shute...

I'm sure Link is a great guy and a good coach and might be good at Test level. But I have been to a million of these lunches, and they all look and sound great. FFS Michael Foley had the room eating up his stuff at a lunch earlier this year.

I'm with you TOCC, it makes no sense. Compare the exposure ManU gets with tiny NZ. IMO it's more likely a $20M deal over 3 years.

I agree totally, JON has been remunerated on financial goals, his philosophy has always been get the Wobblies winning and everything else looks after itself. Which is fine if they are winning,but they are not.Compare his financial goals and the subsequent poor level of health at the grass roots...

The drop in revenue for the Wobs looks OK from your explanations, however why didn't the AB's suffer similiarly? look at our 2006 & 2010 figures to remove RWC from the equation. Still a reduction of some 10% in revenue. BTW don't know where you got 2005 numbers from. The best litmus test for me...

Can you read a balance sheet? After the losses for ARC had been accounted for, the ARU was worth 25% more in 2007 than it is today! You are not listening re the revenue, Before JON,in 2007 we had the same revenue as the Kiwi's.4 years of JON and they have increased their revenue and ours has...

You have missed my point. Rugby has always been no 1 in NZ,and has always been no 3 in Oz. Yet their revenue improved and ours deteriorated substantially, in the same time frame, playing in the same competitions. We didn't downgrade anything we totally eliminated them. Remember Australia...

3 x 12k, 6 x 8k 3 x SFA Is there something else?

The ARU dishes out a total of $84,000 to 12 clubs and makes the lucky ones go through a lengthy bureaucratic process? FFS they would have spent more than that on JON's travel each year. Get rid of the bureaucrats involved in this process and divide their salary by 12 and just send each of the...

Why is it not apples and apples? Your logic might have merit if RL or AFL changed the landscape with some innovations that impacted on Rugby.We had the same internal competitors in '07 as we have in '11. What is different in NZ & SA (our business partners)that they can grow their revenues in...

In the same time frame the AB's have increased their revenue and improved their net worth. I'm not saying it's not a tough job, nor am I saying he is hopeless. I was responding to a view that he saved the joint upon his return. The facts show that he did not. Edit: Just had a quick look at SA...

That is a myth. Revenues have GONE DOWN by over $10M pa during 'JONs 2nd stint. Net Worth of the company also reduced by 25% in his term. Perception does not always equal reality.