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That's my perception

I was simply showing a gap between the 2, agree with you, is it a bridge we need?

TOCC - you guys both post quality well thought out stuff. Quick Hands did say leave it to the locals in QLD - shit if the locals come back and say 3 teams would be appropriate, it gets tweaked a little. A KISS model - given the quality of games in the second half of last year - top 6, maybe...

I don't think Quick Hands referenced timing I think he simply referenced his ideal structure both geographic and dize

You think. I know.;) I think the top 6 split in the SS last year although had it's weakness - it highlighted some very quality rugby.

How good is this, that's nurturing Grass Roots; http://newslocal.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx

Shute 2012 the top 6 / bottom 6 structure - well the top 6 had some very high quality rugby played.

Or maybe if our best were playing in a comp against each other now they would be fit and ready.

Pyle and Neville - they even look similar with their bloody headgear on, both of then deserve a shot. Not saying they are better but they a dimensions to the game that Douglas, Horwill, Timani and Co don't.

BeastieBoy I'm sure there are trolls reviewing what is posted. The interest Jpn rugby has shown in the Southern Hemisphere players is huge - we can't look at our 3rd Tier like the ITM & Currie so including Jpn is simply a different thought. Look at the game time George Smith got this year - he...

I'm not sure people are pulling them down, they are pointing out that they have a structure, and an offering that other clubs can not provide. I don't have a solution, the top 3 of the CC have remained pretty consistent over recent years - Eastwood & Manly are doing good things. Some points...

Well Pfitzy that's putting it out there

With the participants of this forum batting for rugby, their rugby club, and the codes future development and growth - have a read and add your thoughts and ideas; SYDNEY RUGBY UNION 17 September 2013 Mr. Bill Pulver Chief Executive Officer Dear Bill PROPOSALS...

very good point

topo Hugh Jarse No.8 Asked the question to be constructive, not critical. I could think of 5 country boys at Uni, and I think they finished their schooling at private schools within Sydney on scholarships - so do we blame it on the Private School system for feeding Uni. I think Uni are a huge...

Is that because it was a stupid question? - Uni don't have juniors they scholarship from elsewhere. or Is it because my question didn't make sense? I.e. Dave Dennis - didn't he play his juniors out west?

And of those 19 players were did they play their junior rugby U6 - U16 (some 17's start stepping up to colts that's all), if someone knows it would be interesting to see.

It was a good year. All the kids had a ball, most will be back, and some rugby just aint their game but they all still had fun. Already have a growing list for next year which is a good sign. The hardest but also best part - Manly does have a huge paddock of Grass Roots 3 teams won the...

True BUT They are different, I have commended them for making best use of their resources, congrats and they can still do that through the Shute. They are a huge asset for Australian Rugby and should be nurtured BUT the fact is; letting them stand alone will not strengthen rugby. they do not...

So we now are watching the Wobblies, whilst the NRL & AFL get to put on their show. There seems to be a common chant at the moment - top tier rugby needs to be played now - it is simply the structure that is being debated. Two key points (of many many many mind you) 1. A club needs to be...