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Eh? I don’t think he ever played league in Australia? He was an ACT Rugby product........... St Edmunds, ACT U20’s, Aus U20’s, Canberra Vikings, Brumbies, Rebels............. And then back to NZ.

Clearly there is more interest in the Kiwi teams in Australia than some Sydney and Canberra suburban clubs that have no wider appeal.........

Well, I certainly wasn’t being dismissive of a domestic structure........... only the domestic club model proposed. And I didn’t say the data was shoddy either............ But they’re a thread for this conversation.........

There's a discussion going on in the other thread, but it's a fairly shoddy article......... the data seems to support a trans tasman competition, and not a national club competition which would not be viable and lead to the death of professional rugby in this country.

No doubt........ but even in Sydney it would likely further kill of rugby further west of Newtown.

Going back to that article........ some serious flaws in there. They seem to jump from "Super Rugby is not working" (which we're all aware of), to "National Club Competition," but their data only supports the first statement. There's also dubious claims such as: And there's a call to...

No doubt........... it was a big hit in those early years - I still remember the 'razzle dazzle' ads that used to run all the time on FTA. I've been doing a clean out of VHS tapes and discovered some of semis and finals matches that aired on Prime back in 2000/2001. But I recall the Brumbies...

Oh boy.........

Which the Australian allegedly, understands, he reportedly said thanks Roger Davis / NFJ......... GG RENAE CASTEL!!!

Not once, but twice......... "Once Covid came along.........."

I don't believe in coincidences, and I'm still connecting the dots, but this thread delving into electronic kraut/prog banter last night......... https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/may/06/florian-schneider-kraftwerk-co-founder-dies-aged-73 Dismal has a lot to answer for.

Sorry, but I have to steal this.........

According to yesterday's The Australian.........

And from Nine......... https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/wiggs-resigns-from-rugby-australia-board-over-ceo-plans-20200506-p54qa7.html

It's now in the OZ... Apparently resigned after an "explosive" email exchange with McLean.

Indeed......... the language is subtle, but starting with the headine........... And it seems the board can't do without him......... Why is that? Just note, the poor grammar in those last two quotes are not mine - straight from the article.

Whoops, did mean to add in that last bit..........

A few nuggets from the Oz.......... It’s not Wayne Smith so the integrity of the article has to come into question somewhat, especially as it ramps up the rhetoric towards RA at times while being suspiciously sympathetic to certain parties:

Let's see, 12 Brumbies......... Sio (not on form though), Slipper, Ala'alatoa, Fainga'a, Samu, Valetini, Powell, Lolesio, Simone, Kuridrani, Banks......... and probably Wright or Muirhead.......... maybe Swain, but he hasn't played much this year and I think they'd be interested in at least one...

Lock him in.........