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Mate what on earth were you watching? I blame Foley. You're still in shock.

No I just recall it from the match. He did give the Force player a bit of a hoofing. God I wish rucking made a comeback. Sort out players pretending to "roll away" real quick.

Camera angles on TV today show bugger all. Unless the commissioner gets more footage I can't see him being banned. Nom nom.

Springboks – 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Bryan Habana, 13 JJ Engelbrecht, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Jano Vermaak, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Beast Mtawarira. Subs: 16...

Meyer doesn't rate him. He likes big loosies. He came up with some hogwash bullshit last year that the rules currently don't suit his play. Unfortunately come journos in SA believed it and keep repeating the bullshit.

Tahs by 40.

Yes I am. You really are the biggest whiner on this forum. It's always the ref. Never credit where it's due. Those players are very skilled. They will gett better. Heaslip's carrying and workrate is exceptional. Vunipola can scrum and is really skilled with ball in hand. etc But they...

Sexton, O'Driscoll, O'Brien, Heaslip, Halfpenny, North, Vunipola (cracking player). Excellent rugby players. Lions did all they needed to do and hardly really stretched themselves. All too easy. They didn't have to work particularly hard.

Braveheart is probably right-ish. Just hope it's close for a good while. Would haye to see a blow out.

Glass half full? :) But I get what you're saying. If I was a player in the West I would be pissed though.

I remember people used to call the Force the Farce. That's exactly what this is. In 12 years time they should not get a game.

I still get spitting mad when I see Mujati play up North. He is a bloody good scrummager. Better then Jannie. A lot better.

What will carry the most favour with fans? Push the Lions close in an epic battle or even possible upset them vs. whatever happens in the Tahs game, which is a dead rubber? There are just so many arguments for going all out against the Lions.

Reckon Mvovo has improved. He used to be terrible fielding catches and when he had to turn there would be an almost guaranteed mess. He has a big engine and seems to be working on skills. Has to be in at least the top 5 or so wings in SA.

Ebersohn has been called up. Juan de Jongh is out with injury and JdV as well as JJ Engelbrecht are doubtful. Could see Serfontein and Ebersohn paired up. I can live with that.

What exactly would that be?

An opportunity for rugby missed in the West because of a coache's personal agenda.

Go back in history and ask guys who never represented their country which was the biggest game of their life and I am pretty sure the majority will tell you the day they got that once in a lifetime opportunity to face the Lions. If this is Foley's ego getting in the way he truly has a very...

Will be a shame.