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  1. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    I'm not estimating anything. I'm discussing theoretical ideas on an internet forum. You should try thinking 'how could this work' before 'this won't work' sometimes, it's more enjoyable. Domestic sevens might be better organised by a private group than directly by the ARU. There are alternatives...
  2. Omar Comin'

    Super 7s

    Yeah I don't think it would work as it would be too high scoring. And if every team isn't incredibly even it would be pointless. 7's for that length of time would work better on a smaller pitch. The problem with high scoring sports is they don't really get all that interesting until near the...
  3. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    I never said there should be year round tournaments in Australia. What I'm saying is there is scope to significantly increase the size and support of the Australian leg of the IRB series and that we could develop a successful domestic series played over 3 or 4 weeks in summer. If both of...
  4. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    Because it's fun. Because it's rugby. Because the games are short and sharp, so if you get a bad one or one that's not very competitive, you can just have a chat with the people around you, or get some drinks or food and come back for the next one without feeling like you've missed anything...
  5. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    I don't think you understand how big soccer is in England. There are 4 professional leagues with almost 100 clubs! Not to mention all the other stuff on in London that competes for the entertainment dollar. A lot of people at the 7's events aren't even regular sports fans let alone rugby fans...
  6. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    Okay so you've never been to an event and you don't like it. You have to realise you're negatively biased and not overly well informed about sevens. The fact you don't think sevens is an opportunity to broaden the fan base is why I asked if you'd attended an event, because you wouldn't think...
  7. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    I didn't say people don't like 7's, I said the atmosphere is the lure. It's the same with attending 'event' sport in general. I've been to a couple of IRB sevens events (Vegas and London) and taken groups of people that knew nothing about rugby each time. All 20 somethings and all loved it. Have...
  8. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    No one would expect any new event to be an immediate financial saviour. There is no immediate financial saviour for the ARU. It needs long term plans that aren't just the Wallabies becoming the best team in the world again (though that couldn't come at a better time, and surely we're due!)...
  9. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    Our event is held at the Gold Coast which has a history of poor crowds for sport and isn't a major destination. Sevens works in major cities, so lets move it to Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane and make it massive. 4 or 5 years ago the London 7's was a ghost town. This year it sold out Twickenham...
  10. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    Who cares? The government and the sponsors perhaps? You don't think the ARU would benefit from running a big annual event that attracted 20k tourists every year? A lot of the profit generated by events like this is in corporate hospitality and sponsorship. And for events with big economic...
  11. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    Well a summer series could potentially provide that in time. I thought the IRB covered a lot of the cost for the participating teams? It would be interesting to know how much profit the Hong Kong, Wellington, Vegas and London 7's make every year. I found this on the economic impact of the...
  12. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    It's never really been developed into an income stream in Australia though. Imagine if our Sevens leg was like the Hong Kong event every year. There's no reason it couldn't be. It's not like Australians don't like fancy dress, fast paced football and giant parties. I'd like to see the IRB...
  13. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    But the primary purpose of the A League isn't to feed the Socceroos. The FFA is not a Socceroos centric organisation anymore. They're trying to build a great competition in its own right. The fact it will benefit the Socceroos is a consequence of that. I think this is a problem we have in...
  14. Omar Comin'

    The Awful Truth About The ARU's Financial Position

    It's a risky model that leaves rugby in trouble if the Wallabies aren't dominating world rugby. And most of the time they are not going to dominate world rugby. Super rugby needs to stand on its own two feet and preferably make money for the ARU. The A League now makes Football Australia money...
  15. Omar Comin'

    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    Thinking long term we could eventually end up with 6 team conferences in each of Australia, NZ, South Africa, Asia, North America and South America. That could be split into 2 divisions - Asia Pacific as well as Americas and Africa. In the regular season every team might play something like 8...
  16. Omar Comin'

    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    Bardon, the other bridging option would be what Nigel Melville said he suggested a few years ago. i.e. a Pacific-Rim conference with 1 or 2 teams from each of the US, Canada, Japan and Argentina. From a playing standard something like that would be viable now. But personally I would see...
  17. Omar Comin'

    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    Good posts Bardon, keep in mind I'm thinking out loud on an internet forum not presenting a business plan! But I do think a lot more could be done by SANZAR to develop rugby in North America (as well as Asia and South America for that matter) and that there could be mutually beneficial...
  18. Omar Comin'

    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    SANZAR would help with every aspect and help take US rugby to another level of performance and professionalism. The SANZAR involvement would attract private investment. No one would be subsidising the teams but the owners. USA Rugby certainly couldn't afford to. They would have to live within...
  19. Omar Comin'

    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1966453-usa-rugby-the-state-of-americas-rugby-union-with-nigel-melville So Bardon, there is interest from USA Rugby in entering Super Rugby. SANZAR just haven't done it.
  20. Omar Comin'

    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    It is a very steep upward trend and there's no reward without risk. It might take 10 years, it might only take 3 or 4. It would have a greater chance of success than 1 isolated team in a South African conference and it would probably cost less too. I don't think it would be a huge liability to...
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