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I'd believe that, have seen scrums struggle after Horwill being the sole change on. Simmons actually shocks me with his scrummaging ability.

City was always going to have the better of players, but injuries to O'Donoghue (London), Davies (Rocky), Shipperley (Redcliffe), Harris (NZ), Lucas (Ipswich), Daley (Sydney), Quirk (Brisbane), CFS (NZ), Toua (PNG) plus the losses of Owen (Hong Kong), Anae (NZ) overseas (Anae may be have been...

According to ESPN, McMahon 11 tackles, Hooper 12 tackles, McCalman 14 tackles. L'Idiot 18 tackles, Faletau 17 tackles, Warburton 13 tackles. Wallabies with 54% of possession and 53% territory, both teams had 4 clean breaks and 16 defenders beaten. Wales with 11 offloads to Wallabies 6...

Both were cleaned up. One they scored off the turnover, the other we turned over because AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)'s knee took out Halfpenny, and then Kuridrani scored after. I wouldn't say either was well executed or necessary.

I think Foley will maintain the starting 10 for the EOYT from here. Cooper will need to be in the form of last year's EOYT to even have a shot of unseating Foley next before the WC. I think it's unlikely at this stage, they will want stability going into the WC and Foley will be starting.

Thought Lilo did OK coming into first receiver a couple of times, and he made some good tackles. Would like to see him as a second kicking option as well, though. Largely had a mistake free game.

I think that Lilo will also comfortably hold onto the 12 jersey with that performance. Horne came on for Lilo at the end. If Cheika goes to a 5/3 split, wonder if he will choose To'omua or Cooper?

And North isn't a 13, he doesn't have the hands. Tomane had a poor first half and a very good second half. My MotM was probably Jones, the Welsh lock.

Kuridrani probably would've been my pick of the Australian players. Foley is right up there for his kicking and that try saving intercept in the first half. But, the missed penalty kick for touch, couple of forward passes/bad decisions, dumb grubbers and lack of direction on attack tempered...

I don't get why Wales went into their shells in the second half. What was Gatland thinking? Last year I thought Wales were damn lucky to be within two tries of us, this year I thought at half time we were lucky to be within two tries of Wales. Then Wales came out and played one-out ball in...

Reckon there was a good 10+ players on the pitch better than Foley too, but his kicking was good for us, thankfully. Wonder if we will go with a 6/2 bench next week.

North, no patience. Great game. Lucky we got that, but you have to take it when they come.

We have given away so many ruck penalties. Joubert has his pick.

Good thing Foley has brought his kicking boots tonight. How the fuck did Foley get MotM? Does the NH guys have no idea about rugby?

We look like getting out of jail on this one. So lucky Wales went into their shell in the second half.

Surely we had to take the points.....

Wow. Wrong way Joubers, Lilo didn't roll away. Will take it, though.

Not clearing from our 22 is brave, has failed us all game. Good kick from Foley, much better.

Good option, we weren't going to do anything else.

Hodgson on for McMahson now. Real mixed game for McMahon, maybe bit more negative unfortunately. Horne left now, and he's not yet warming up.