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if they are all yellow card incidents, then there is nothing to cite. btw, I disagree with Paul Martin on the no-try. I believe it was the correct call from the ref and AR and they made it by watching it once at full speed. As a result, I would say that they are not useless.

I enjoyed the irony of your response.

He was always a try scroer. IMO his ball skills and defence were the problem. Has he improved these?

looks like a good post to start a Rebels 2015 thread.

And I was just asking if it deserves to be cited ie do you think it should have been a red card. I haven't seen the incident but have heard that it warranted a yellow card only. I was trying to ask your opinion of whether it deserved a red card. You had previously compared it to the Gower...

Does it deserve a red card? If so, it would rely on Wests putting in a report or some other party electing to report it? If not, there is nothing to cite?

From what I have heard, it deserved a yellow card, so I don't believe it compares at all to the Gower incident.

How's his brother Harry going? ;)

Interesting the inclusion of his last 2 tackles which were not legal. Arguably 1 red and 1 yellow. I hope he has sorted that out if he wants to progress.

Braveheart, while you and I are making similar points, I still think you have to be in the contest in the air in this situation. Otherwise under your interpretation, Placid's contact with Hayward would be OK if Hayward does not catch the ball and Placid is genuinely trying to catch the ball but...

Automatic red card is u19 law and used in some states. It is not super rugby or international law. I am pretty sure that a yellow card is recommended but not mandatory. For the Placid situation, the Law interpretation here is that you must contest the ball in the air in this situation, so I...

I think it is more a sign of Manly's strength.

I still think it will be at least $20.

I'm pretty sure he did for Penrith Colts. His brother, Corey, played for Penrith before playing for Manly.

Given a Shute Shield game is $15, I would think $20-30 is the more likely price point particularly as many of the Clubs are hiring the Ovals.

Grade not Colts?

Dave Dennis played for Penrith before Uni. Colts not Grade.

they won't get 16 waratahs at each nsw club.

They share it around early in the season.

Darren Coleman, I assume. Ex Norths and Brumbies academy coach. Been in Japan last few years.