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  1. Athilnaur

    The Israel Folau saga

    Love Stephen Fry. It seems to me the thread has run the gamut. In a few days we will see how the code of conduct hearing goes. I doubt it will rest there if the decision is in favour of RA and I think it is highly likely a court decision will vindicate Israel given he had not entered into a...
  2. Athilnaur

    The Israel Folau saga

    There are a number of people in this thread who take the position it isn't that Israel can't think those things, he's just not allowed to SAY them because we don't agree with them and if he doesn't stop he must be punished. For those of you who think this way, that people who say things you...
  3. Athilnaur

    The Israel Folau saga

    Of course he is. He believes gays, adulterers, etc etc are going to hell. It's a belief many Australians disagree with and understandably object to. He shared his belief on social media, and RA decided to cancel his contract because they consider the controversy reflects on Rugby. The man...
  4. Athilnaur

    The Israel Folau saga

    Derpus, that presupposes that as long as anyone takes offence at something said or done then that something is a breach of the code of conduct. I'd be very surprised if this is the case. I would expect that the test is a 'reasonable person' test. If any instance of a person being offended by...
  5. Athilnaur

    The Israel Folau saga

    Aah, Slim, meet Ad Hominem. Ad Hominem, this is Slim. I think you two will get on well.
  6. Athilnaur

    The Israel Folau saga

    The definition of bigot is someone who is intolerant of other opinions, so I imagine all of us are bigots about one thing or other. There is no evidence at all Israel Folau is a bigot about gays, quite the reverse. His expressed view is that that way of life damns you, but his actions seem...
  7. Athilnaur

    The Israel Folau saga

    You have to see the irony. So many players we could all mention have managed to wriggle out of consequences or pay fines and time to get back in the good books, players who have brought their own name into disrepute if not the game, but a player who everyone agrees has been a glowing and...
  8. Athilnaur

    The Israel Folau saga

    except he was targeted, and it was for communicating his religious beliefs.
  9. Athilnaur

    The Israel Folau saga

    Consequences is an unhelpful term. The issue in play is criticism vs punishment. Can a person's free speech be criticised? Can it be punished? The whole point of free speech is to be allowed to criticise. To call out the emperor with no clothes. Punishing free speech is a very different...
  10. Athilnaur

    RWC 2015 Final - Australia v New Zealand, Twickenham, Sunday 1 November, 3:00 AEDT

    Dan Carter was incredible today. Time and again he brought composure and direction to his team. The other guy I believe to be the master tactician of our demise was... Not a fan of Owens, or his wink to McCaw at the coin toss, but while Owens had the brakes on us in the first half he made...
  11. Athilnaur

    G&GR Player of the Year - RWC QF 4: AUS v SCO (Twickenham) 18 Oct

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  12. Athilnaur

    G&GR Player Of The Year - AUS v WAL - Twickenham 10 October

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  13. Athilnaur

    Bledisloe #2 - AUS v NZL, Eden Park, Auckland, August 15th

    On Quade, its a gamble but a damn good one. If he stumbles rwc decisions move on, but if the faith gives him the confidence to be the stunning player we all miss, we all win, esp Quade.
  14. Athilnaur

    Bledisloe #2 - AUS v NZL, Eden Park, Auckland, August 15th

    Nah imo they rate Genia, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Pocock, Hooper, Moore, Folau, Beale tho not at 12, JOC (James O'Connor), Gits on a good day, TK I reckon, but of those they only fear Pocock, Hooper, Folau, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) and on their day any of the three amigos. The dislike for Cooper is a tell. They don't rate him now, but they rubbished...
  15. Athilnaur

    Waratahs v Highlanders, semi-final, Saturday 27 June

    It was a good game for 55 odd minutes. Arguably the Tahs were lucky to be as close as they were, but they were and signs of the surge were there once Hooper's break and subsequent play ensued. To address the elephant in the room, as soon as that decision happened my rugby sense was the game...
  16. Athilnaur

    Waratahs v Highlanders, semi-final, Saturday 27 June

    I must admit the same dark thought occurred to me while listening to Nick McArdle get us ahead of ourselves on Rugby HQ. Just rapt here we have two genuine contenders in the last 4. And its hard to ignore Cheikas track record. Some blokes are good at finding ways to win. If the Tahs really...
  17. Athilnaur

    The impending Hooper vs Pocock Dilemma

    To be fair it's more productive than the QC (Quade Cooper) and Beale controversy threads were Cyclo! In all seriousness while you are completely right they are both good and will get lots of gametime (if fit/fingers crossed) most selections are easy decisions. I forecast that if Hoops and Poey are available...
  18. Athilnaur

    Coaching Options for Qld Rugby

    That would be good news for the Blues and a loss for Aussie rugby in my opinion. Gibson has the mana and insight, I believe, to take the potent athletic talent at the Blues and weld it into a cohesive team that chooses it's moments of attack. On the Reds, won't happen but I'd like to see...
  19. Athilnaur

    The impending Hooper vs Pocock Dilemma

    I have always wondered if the bulk muscle Poey has puts excessive load on tendons and cartilage. Any gurus here comment? On Hoops vs Pocock, clearly Hoops is the incumbent, but injuries aside I see Poey eclipsing (not ellipsing...8D) Hoops, particularly for RWC.
  20. Athilnaur

    England v Australia

    Loved what AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) brought to the game. He really is a class act, in any other nation but this one where we are constantly looking for 'x' factor from our players, the man goes onto the field, gives 100% every time, and makes a ridiculously small number of errors while routinely exposing his...
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