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You just summed up pretty much every bad progressive argument made in this thread. 'His views are different from mine. He's wrong and he must be stupid. He needs to be punished.'

Fair play. If only other participants could resist the temptation to repeat themselves ad nauseum interspersed with empty accusations of nonsense! Well said Jeep - but I wish you luck engaging with progressive posters who don't discuss issues but express outrage.

Slim, you are going to need to work harder on your arguments, oftentimes you just resort to ad hominem attacks that smell of virtue signalling. People can spout 'nonsense' about other people's views all they like, it does not make it so. Only sound argument can reveal such things. The...

Yup. Some people seem to keep needing reminding.

So by your logic its free speech because he wasn't imprisoned?

Sully if this were true it would have been a lot shorter discussion. There's no clause proscribing his soocial media use, just a generic conduct provision. As I understand it RA would not have been able to due to an agreement with RUPA about no additional causes being deleterious. It can be...

As has been stated many, many times in this long thread, it isn't free speech if it isn't allowed. It can be logically argued that some free speech must be curbed, even stopped because it impacts on others rights, but to claim it wasn't free speech denied is nothing short of Orwellian.

Not according to one of the best captains we ever had he didn't.

He lost his job Derpus. And it isn't just Christians who are concerned, I should know, I am not a practising christian and I firmly believe in homosexual rights. You are being dismissive of people who have a different view to you - dissmissive by claiming it to be nonsense. There are...

Employment law in Australia has greater protections against discrimination than general law. Courts have and use the right to throw out any contract clauses that are oppressive Less so than America, employers do not rule carte blanche over employees in employment contract law - but there are...

Things are going to get very messy indeed if we start making a corollory between religion and anti vaxxer conspiracy theorists who spread proven lies that go against medical science. And dictating to people that they can only share positive messages of their beliefs, well who is going to sit...

Yeah but Qantas has no business being so naieve, nor is it. It will lose far more business stomping on the views of Christians than it will by not issuing an ultimatum to Rugby Australia. Joyce has said it is a matter for RA. As a sponsor Qantas gets to be concerned. But like most businesses...

Great question and for me the nub of the issue. Should employees be allowed to ruin an employers business? Hell no. But the question here is a deep one. Can employers proscribe employees posting religious views the employers do not agree with? It seems to me sports organisations should not...

From my perspective political correctness is the first refuge of those without a better argument: 'Our view is right, Agree or else.' But I agree, loads of us think he was 'out of line' though I think your choice of metaphor is telling. It is just that some of us think he shouldn't be...

Heh I suspect Finsbury Girl is a lawyer making a light hearted remark expressing enthusiasm for more money for poor barristers.

Strewth, it is a fair question. I remember at the time Israel came out and said he was disappointed about how Raelene had reported the meeting to the media and I thought 'hello. He hasn't agreed to anything other than to hear them out, I bet.' So I reckon a new contract was signed and having...

BH to me that is splitting hairs. He won't see it that way. Hell, I wouldn't see it that way if someone came and told me to retract views I'd posted in these threads. If his post comes down it is because he is being told he isn't allowed to say it, by definition. Political correctness in...

I don't think it is a cop out at all. To take it down is to admit the view is wrong. He'll never agree with that. At best you might get a sorry if you find my views offensive but I believe this. You can try and split hairs all you like but telling someone their views can't be said is telling...

Folau is never going to retract it, it is something he genuinely believes. The problem for RA is that this isn't a person who has stolen a laptop or snorted cocaine or punched a team mate that can be made to say 'oops, my bad'. It is a person who has strong Christian beliefs which include...

Apologies, long post, but I hope it offers some insight to those among us who think Israel should be punished by RA into the views of the libertarians amongst us who see it as a freedom issue. TL:DR - Our society is what it is because those who went before us learnt the value of a free society...