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Norths and Eastwood fought out a 10 all draw in 1st colts. Couldn't help but feel that Estwood actually had the edge but just couldn't convert their opportunites. Having said that, the Norths defence was very good, with Michael Freeman being outstanding in the centres. Both sides were very...

another one - Matt Burke - got into rugby at Joeys

I think Ali Williams was also a soccer player, until he was about 16. I'm sure I read somewwhere that Luke McAlister had been offered a junior Man U contract when he was young, and I'm thinking this was when he was in his teens. Ah, another one, pretty sure Pat McCabe played soccer until...

John Flett - Wallaby early 90's, didn't play rugby until 18

Norths played Warringah - won 2nds and 3rds comfortably but lost 1sts by 2 points. Can't read too much into it, I got the impression that Warringah weren't as far down the training path as Norths - hence large scores ain 2's and 3's, and Norths were experimenting a fair bit. Both teams will be...

Was it Nicky Morath you're thinking of? I think he played for Tomga in the RWC but didn't he play somewhere else last year (Easts?)

Jordan Meredith??? Is he about 19 - if so, yes I know a bit about him. A mad keen rugby league (fanatic) who played rugby as well - but his heart was clearly in league. His father is / was a talent identifer for one of the big league teams here in Sydney (Manly) If it's him, he's a good...

I'm not totally up to speed here, so please don't think I'm trying to be smart, but which is his "local" club. I remember watching Brogan play for Sydney Uni in the under 16's, I think it was - maybe 15's, State Knock out a few years ago - kind of suggests his club is, and has been, Uni. I've...

yep, that's right - the difference between a good club and test player.

Yes, well that's good to hear - I hope your right.

think it was Bunce and Michael Jones - the two best tacklers in world rugby at the time. Howard was in the team off the back of one flick pass he did in the NSW QLD game that year - didn't really move on from there.

I don't think either of the rugby codes will be invited to within 100 metres of the SCG once it's refurbished - if that development isn't for the benfit of AFL I'd be highly surprised. Attendances at cricket certainly don't support spending that much money

The NZRU owe Sonny Bill an enormous debt - especially for his contribution to the RWC win. Whether justified or not, his presence was sufficent to scare Nonu into pulling his finger out and playing to his ability - unfortunately ....

Dont know many of the schoolboy names but noticed: Saia Tanginoa - West Colts - Souths squad Patrick Kennedy - St Aloysiuis - Manly squad Nathan Scarano - Knox College - Wests Squad

Agree re: the junior clubs providing the support. I'm referring to the 2010 u/17's, and prior - I've watched these kids play for years and always admired them. They are from Wahroonga, Lindfield, St Ives and Roseville - all core Gordon clubs. Like I say, I'm in two minds - great to have them...

"... On a seperate note it appears there is a possibility that a northern neighbour of yours has decided to travel a similar path as others with a different method by looking to stockpile playing talent by splashing around a financial net to catch some tried and as many potential young players...

... and if I hear correctly, Gordon will be losing a lot more in 2012 to Norths.

Thanks Lily, I understood the term not just the context. Agree with the points and observations as to Norths in 2011. Hopefully it will improve in 2011. Should I hold my breathe?

Lily I had an, un-offical, ie: spectators, interest in Norths Colts this year and was surprised as to how poorly they went, especially late in the season. Just interested in your comment as to "... the players didn't have any skin in the game..." In what way did you mean?

Agree - nobody compares to Horan. He was just exceptional.