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Too true. In the spirit of trying to find a solution where NSW Rugby couldn't give a toss, does anyone know if somebody...anybody does front row clinics? Most guys playing Subbies love their club, love rugby and will help out where they can. Surely if more players knew how to play prop or...

As I read more of this thread I feel an eerie similarity to the Shute Shield circa 2000. Either you want to maintain the traditions that make this competition great, OR you want to develop the standard of rugby. Sadly, You can't have both. In the Clubs, you can't develop programs centred...

Hey PP, and to other frustrated Subbies people. I do have an avenue/alternative but would like to discuss this off-line as I don't want to see anybody executed as a "rebel" just for discussing other options. It's a massive task so would take place in 2018, if at all. Start a private...

Sadly too true. I mentioned previously a very flawed model about getting clubs involved. The model was roundly, and rightly, panned by the members on this forum. However I believe the intention is still valid. Schools, States and the ARU need to find a way to bring Club and Schoolboy rugby...

Hi Rich_E. My comment regarding "arrogance was actually not related to the ten round comp but rather I personally have an issue with the term "elite" as it assumes superiority. GPS schools are privileged, caring, strong, selective (academically or financially) and unfortunately at times...

Rich_E, In my modest opinion, what you say is very valid but your reasoning is possibly mistaken. For competitive rugby players, they want to play first and foremost. They get the chance for GPS glory but otherwise they get to prove their worth against a greater variety of schools and players...

Congratulations Pfitzy. It's great to see good people still standing up when it's needed. If I didn't already have club commitments (mine, son's and golden oldies) I would take up the chance to coach a Renegades side to be a part of what you're trying to achieve. ....well that and I'm a sh!t...

I wouldn't excuse them. If you want all round rugby players, give them all the skills. I'd back the All Black front rowers have a reasonable kicking game. Anyway, there's nothing more beautiful than a chip, chase and regather from a number 3:D

Rightly or wrongly, the "stick" approach can't work. Looking past all the legal ramifications for restricting what kids can do if all their school commitments are met, you're generally looking at two kinds of kids. Scholarship players, who are advancing their lives through their sporting talent...

Hey CnP, I can't respond to kids choice of League but if a kid wants to leave the sport, well, no change of competition structure will change that. With regards to helping Clubland, how many Association Schools go down to D and E teams? Right there, if they move into Clubs there's a number...

One of the biggest issues I can see is the logistics between schools. When you have Joeys (down to M's in my day) versus a small school you have to find games for everyone else. What I am about to suggest could solve 2 substantial problems (Schools AND Juniors) but cause the purists to spit...

I'm really interested in the possibility of Schools playing outside their association. With all due respect to the passion of those who don't like the idea, but lift your head out of the scrum and look around. Firstly, the discussion suits this thread as GPS Rugby all but drives the schoolboy...

With AGM Season underway, is there any news on movement for next year? Can KOBS and BOBS (the Flowerpot Men's grumpier brothers;)) be revived after such disappointing seasons? Has there been anything to the rumour of an Old Boys Club, GPS or otherwise? With the fine/bond still in place...

Thanks DB. The cynic in me suggests NSW Rugby's lack of involvement is why it is going forward. For the Private Schools it seems a little odd. With a history in Rugby and a mechanisms to establish any competition through Association Committees (so much easier than dealing with so many state...

That is fantastic news about these championships, but not what I was asking about. Although the beaches seem to be on the right track. I was wondering whether there would be a week-in-week-out 7s competition for schools. from u13 - opens. Or even younger if primary schools were to be involved...

Please forgive my ignorance at this point but I can't seem to find any information. Are there any moves to bring Sevens Rugby into Schools. I am particularly interested in the idea of GPS/CAS/ISA Schools competing together (I obviously live in NSW) Surely creating a Rugby Sevens as a summer...

Ummm...pretty stupid. The irony is I think Lindfield had come to terms with much of the punishment, it was the bond that was the problem. So Subbies pretty much let them off the hook for most things from which they can more than easily rebuild, and possibly dominate. Talk about snatching a...

Could be interesting. If they can maintain colts, 2s an 3s form they will probably win Div 2 until 2019. Forcing second place to ascend. Talk about putting little fish in a big pond. The bond is going to hurt. Given the culprit has confessed to his sins, I'm not sure why he got a discount on...

You must not be overly aware of Subbies administration. When sometimes up to 25% of players don't pay full subs, or in some cases any, and fewer contribute to the ongoing costs such as physio, strapping, wet weather venue hire, affiliation fees etc. you would be surprised how much damage $10K...

Fair call regarding the team sheets. But probably a pretty heavy penalty given the poor team sheet administration across Subbies. As I said, punishment was required. But to punish someone who is currently in year 9 (joining the club after finishing school) for something that happened 5 years...