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Hey Braveheart, Given the mixed timing of some posts, was your question for me? If so, World Rugby should look at citizenship only. Test Rugby is matches between nations. Players should be representing nation of which they are citizens. I agree dual citizens make it complicated but how...

You have provided one example. This does not negate that it would happen on anything but a small scale. Can you imagine the uproar if the majority of the Wallabies was suddenly filled with foreign players? While Pulver et al would be dragged through the fire, how much pain do you think their...

Test Rugby is about playing for your country. End of story. If somebody wants to go through the rigmarole of becoming a citizen of a country then that is between them and the country they wish to become a part of. If you have the opportunity to be a dual citizen, good luck to you. There may be...

Not! SS, NSWRU and The ARU don't think Subbies has any role in the rugby pathway so why should Subbies compromise itself for their sake? How on earth does kids going back to Subbies club effect the rugby pathway? If a kid wants to and believes they can play 1st grade SS then they'll stay at...

whoa, whao, whao, settle down a minute. You have non-rugby friends?!?!?!?!? Well there's the start of the problem right there:D

But they are considerably further behind us in the cricket. We have our priorities screwed up but at least it's confirming why we don't see our posts all year round. Hopefully as 7's picks up and we can win more medals, we might see a few more year round rugby fields.

You mean organising lower grades isn't compatible with running higher level/elite rugby teams....who woulda thunk it:rolleyes: Sorry, had a couple of beers with a Xmas lunch....just couldn't resist.:p Merry Christmas to all rugby tragics. I'd rather argue the merits of Rugby with...

G'day Coach, Firstly, I'm not going to argue for the fee hikes by the ARU. That is mismanagement on their part and punishing everyone else for their mistakes. Many of the changes you list make no difference to whether SS would or could be 3rd Tier Rugby But the moment rugby went...

G'day QH, So much of what you have written is from a view point of this is the things the way they were so let's not change it, or remotely consistent with the lived experience of people outside the stronger SS Clubs. Horses for courses, agreeing to disagree and all that so I will let it go...

Thank you all for your responses. Given your descriptions (and I have no reason to doubt you) I'd have to agree there's nothing wrong with Club rugby. So why aren't more people telling Papworth to shut the F up. Given the level of complaining and threats he is and his supporters are making...

Unfortunately I haven't seen the article. Can you provide a link. However what I'm hearing from these pages is there's a problem but nothing needs to change. Also looking at the contributors to this forum it seems most is coming from the eastern side of the Bridge. Manly is a strong Club...

Thank you DB and ILTW for addressing my points. Firstly I agree, Club rugby should be the school, nursery and factory of rugby players. What I am so passionate about and what so many in the rugby community and ARU establishment are so frustrated with is the perception that Shute Shield is...

Hi QH, Thank you for focussing on my emotion and completely ignoring my point. I apologise that you feel insulted. But please understand how insulting your dismissal and condescension towards the rest of Club rugby is. To answer you're earlier statement Please see below...

Hey DB, Your commitment needs to be applauded. Unfortunately, unless your pockets are at deeper than Packer's, we're going to need a few more people to do what you do. Sadly the success of one club financially or otherwise, such as Manly, does little to assist the SS more broadly. A...

OK, this will be my last attempt at trying to explain this. I AM NOT SUGGETING CLUBS REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TEAMS. Does this make sense, am I speaking English, is the spelling ok? I am talking about restructuring the competitions and the Clubs so they can effectively cater to the elite...

I'd say the numerous threads and abundance of posts on GAGR would suggest otherwise. If the current model was working so well why are we having, falling participation, disquiet in the broader rugby community and outright rebellion from some quarters. I love Club rugby as it stands, but - for...

In my eyes they are more important. Stop thinking this is advocating for the abolition of Club rugby. Just a change in the competition structure. The argument that you're making essentially says there is no value in Subbies rugby. If players aren't in the Shute Shield competition then they...

The depth argument is a furphy. I don't see St George Dragons 4th grade running around each weekend or the Sydney Swans thirsty thirds. Yet they manage to pull teams together. I suggest amending the competition, I said nothing about dissolving the Clubs. What you're arguing here is the...

You mean exactly what Pulver said would happen if the ARU gave them money....... The powers at Shute Shield need to make a decision. either work to be a part of the pathway (focus on the development of a core group of potentially elite players) or be a focal point for the local community...