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    Subbies 2023!

    It has already been mentioned recently that a stint in Div 2 may be beneficial to the clubs struggling in Div 1. In recent times St Pat’s and Hunters Hill both returned better clubs after a few years in Div 2. As Heavy D suggested, neither of those clubs had it all their own way even when they...
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    Subbies 2023!

    An interesting situation looking to 2024. Say it is Petersham and Forest (or one of the the other relegation contenders St Pat's or Mosman) that join Div 2 in 2024 how will the other Div 2 clubs go? None of the four Div 1 clubs mentioned are "weak" but relative to the heavy hitters in Div 1...
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    Subbies 2023!

    I am reliably told the Joy Johnson final series format was decided in consultation with the 4 active clubs (Newport, Lindfield, St Pat's & UNSW) together with Subbies. Perhaps you could take up your grievances with the Newport rep who agreed to this venue, format and date? I take your point...
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    Subbies 2023!

    I think there will almost certainly be some frustrated clubs at the end of the season and they will be asking for the same treatment as Drummoyne. What's to say Petersham or Forest or St Pat's or Mosman haven't had an "off year" or meet the same extenuating circumstances as Drummoyne did at the...
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    Subbies 2023!

    Colleagues appear to have 1 hand on the Div 1 Club Championship with a big day of results v Mosman. More intriguing is the bottom end of the table. With ongoing uncertainty about Division structure and promotion/relegation in 2024, I think the bottom half of Division 1 will be doing all in...
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    Subbies 2023!

    Some interesting results in Div 1. Early season form suggests we had a semi-final preview - Blueys confirmed they're the real deal with a strong outing at Rawson Park. A one point loss will hurt but they are very close to the top. Hunters Hill have emerged as early favourites with a pretty...
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    Subbies 2023!

    I'm fairly sure most current Div 1 clubs (and a fair few Div 2) have Shute Shield experience littered throughout their squads and that's not a problem. Subbies address this in their operations manual - https://rugby.net.au/_uploads/res/132_16980.PDF Rule 4 outlines the process and Blue...
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    Subbies 2023!

    After 2 rounds Div 1 appears to be a lot closer than previous years. Mosman made light work of Petersham in 1s but a pretty even day throughout the grades. Mosman v Hunters Hill next weekend will be an interesting as two early contenders for the top gong. St Pat's and Forest had a fairly...
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    Subbies 2023!

    That's a shame, I thought Forest may have struck gold!
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    Subbies 2023!

    This appears to be a good idea on paper and promotes the seamless transition of players from Premier Rugby to Subbies Rugby. I'm unsure of the finer logistics of it all but the initial concerns that spring to mind: - are these Warringah 4s Radford Cup players eligible for selection in the...
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    Subbies 2023!

    Very surprised Mosman aren't fielding Colts II - first time in a number of years (I can even recall them having Colts III in 2019 or 2020). Seems as though Colleagues won the morning but Hunters Hill won the afternoon and get some revenge after last year's Kentwell Cup GF. Some surprising...
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    Subbies 2023!

    Blue Mountains haven't had "Colts" trials in their schedules and are offering free rego for Colts - always a cry for help. Which other clubs are struggling? Hunters Hill seemingly have strong Colts numbers if they are supplementing Epping in Div 2. I understand St Pat's are looking to field a...
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    Subbies 2023!

    I think you’ll find the Newport promotion argument is academic as they did not apply. Like many clubs, once the new season rolls around and you learn of retirements, players leaving and the like you realise that the preceding year isn’t always a good indicator of the year ahead! I don’t quite...
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    Subbies 2023!

    I think you’ll find Mosman and Colleagues are also trialling against each other on 1/4/23, as will a number of Div 1 clubs. As I understand it, the Division 1 clubs have been presented two proposals with the season commencing on 15 April 2023. The respective proposals try and fit the square peg...
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    Sydney Subbies 2022

    I was intrigued by the comments on here so had a look at the Epping v Redfield match to see what the all the fuss was about. Holy smokes! I feel for Epping - plainly the wrong call. A sour way for the season to end, for all involved. Interested to see how Drummoyne bounce back in 2023. No...
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    Sydney Subbies 2022

    Interesting week ahead in Div 1! Will Knox give Mosman a week off before finals? (My guess is yes). In Kentwell it looks as though the Top 6 is just about set. There is the possibility of some movement if Petersham can upset Hunters Hill - anything is possible after their very unexpected win...
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    Sydney Subbies 2022

    This is beyond farcical. I feel for the Blueys lads this weekend - it’s not fair. Now that this has become a recurring trend and not just a ‘one-off’ occurrence I think Knox ought to be disqualified from the Division for the remainder of 2022, which includes their Colts. They plainly have not...
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    Sydney Subbies 2022

    I'm hearing whispers of an unsavoury incident that occurred after full-time of 1st Grade between Hunters Hill & Drummoyne a few weekends ago. Things became physical between Hunters Hill coaches and some Drummoyne players/supporters - management at Hunters Hill none too pleased with the conduct...
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    Sydney Subbies 2022

    I, probably like many others here, can live with your defence of refs. Riddle me how you can defend Knox here. They have forfeited 4th Grade most of the year. They stack their 3rd Grade for ‘back to’ or ‘old boys’ day to get a hollow victory at Lofberg. It’s laughable they have the pride to send...
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    Sydney Subbies 2022

    Knox forfeiting all grades but Colts tomorrow v Waverley. High time they were relegated. Surely they can’t weasel their way out of it this year.
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