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    That is definitely the case, many are only interested in their own sides. Hardcore rugby fans watching more games eagerly anticipate the Bledisloe Games/. My father, for example, while completely neutral had a life long ambition of seeing Australia v New Zealand live and the opportunity was a...
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    There is a difference between that and traditional rivalries. The highest ranked sides are the current competitive rivals at any moment in time. South Africa v New Zealand is the clash of the top ranked sides. In the Southern Hemisphere New Zealand has been the top placed side in recent Tri...
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    S18 on its way

    Everyone wants South Africa involved. The difficultly is the South African sense of entitlement which is holding back the game. I am sure many public quotes from rugby officials are just paying lip service to that.
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    S18 on its way

    Every country cares more about their own country's rivalries. Outside of SANZAR the game everyone is interested in, excluding their own country, is New Zealand v Australia. I am not from either country and I talk about this through experience. In Dublin, when Autumn internationals come around...
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    S18 on its way

    Good point. I think it is getting to a point where SANZAR needs to decide what it wants with Super Rugby. It's at a cross roads. It can be the biggest rugby tournament around with a massive global audience. The alternative is to keep balancing the priorities with domestic competitions and...
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    S18 on its way

    I would like to play the Kiwi sides home and a way and have a finals series. I don't think that 8 home games a year is sufficient.
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    S18 on its way

    I mention New Zealand and Australia because this is a discussion about rugby in the Southern Hemisphere. The All Blacks are the most popular team (or at least the team most people want to watch). That is not up for debate. The rivalry that the rugby world is most interested in is that with...
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    S18 on its way

    You are entitled to disagree with it. If you think that the rugby world likes watching South Africa as much as they do the Wallabies and All Blacks then there really is no point in arguing with you.
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    S18 on its way

    A 7 year old internet post...
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    S18 on its way

    "The youngster Aussies". It is not a very mature approach to discussions if you just try and ridicule people you don't agreement rather than discuss things rationally.
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    S18 on its way

    No need to be so patronising. Australia and New Zealand rugby is the rugby that fans over the world love. South African rugby is not loved. People admire it, people know the teams are strong, but it is not admired. I am sure the people of South Africa adore it, but that isn't the point...
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    S18 on its way

    Definitely a lot to learn from the NFL, but is it apples and oranges though? Different sports and different physical demands. Also with the draft system etc each club presents a different long term value proposition to its stakeholders. Super Rugby can and in my view should play more games...
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    S18 on its way

    Mate there is no doubt of rivalry between these nations, it's totally unrelated
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    S18 on its way

    While you continue to try to dig yourself out of a hole you do realise that everyone here actually has access to the internet and can look this up for themselves? How about you stop being an insufferably pedantic keyboard warrior and let it go. I used "less" incorrectly in my original post you...
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    S18 on its way

    Sigh, you win the internet and the prize is that you can re-define the rules of English. Congratulations
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    S18 on its way

    In which case, Mank, we are all biased and there is no point in mentioning it. I think that every participating nation should prioritise Super Rugby and make it reach its potential. It is the professional era and this is the elite competition in Southern Hemisphere. It should be the elite...
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    S18 on its way

    Mank, the first portion is foundationless. I hardly have enough posts here to detect any sort of pattern or bias against SA, that is absurd. In regards to your 2nd post, I will take being born and raised in Europe and spending the best part of 2 decades involved in the game there ahead of the...
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    S18 on its way

    To your first point, fair call I had actually edited my post (and marked the edit) prior to your response. The attitude of the South Africans towards the competition and their delusions of grandeur are what is holding it back. The Super Rugby Championship could/should/would be the biggest...
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    S18 on its way

    South Africa would be missed, but everyone would get over it. If South Africa think they are more important then then would be better off out of it. After spending 25 years in Europe, no-one really wants to watch South African club sides (rightly or wrongly) they want to watch the best...
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    S18 on its way

    I think this point highlights the problem with the South African stakeholders. Their domestic competition is their priority. Super Rugby should be aspiring to be the world's premier rugby competition but it is being held back by South Africa (EDIT: BY THIS I MEAN THE ATTITUDES EVIDENT HERE AND...
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