QLD Premier Rugby 2025

[Marbig]

Ok I found it*

Last defender, and sticks his arm out (can't convince me that an arm outstretched as far as it can reach to your side is a natural movement in an attempted wrap). If that pass goes to hand bros score.

I fucken hate that knock downs are penalties, but it's pretty clearly a knock down.

I'm okay with the rule when it is clearly cynical (which tbh we rarely see nowadays which I think its a good result of bringing the law in) but there was cover coming given how much the Brothers player slowed down, so to rule a penalty try is farcical. The Easts player was also facing toward his own in-goal so it's a bit of a stretch to say he deliberately knocked the ball on.

Also didn't send a Brothers player to the bin for the same infringement later in the game.

Certainly didn't cost Easts the game, just a pretty heavy handed decision given Dallans unwillingness to correctly apply the law when it came to the scrums later in the game.

 

[JRugby2]

I'm okay with the rule when it is clearly cynical (which tbh we rarely see nowadays which I think its a good result of bringing the law in) but there was cover coming given how much the Brothers player slowed down, so to rule a penalty try is farcical. The Easts player was also facing toward his own in-goal so it's a bit of a stretch to say he deliberately knocked the ball on.

Also didn't send a Brothers player to the bin for the same infringement later in the game.

Certainly didn't cost Easts the game, just a pretty heavy handed decision given Dallans unwillingness to correctly apply the law when it came to the scrums later in the game.

This bit is irrelevant to how it's judged. If you stick your hand into the path of the ball, and it travels forward from you then you're done for (unless you can convince the ref that you're making a tackle or doing something else completely legal).

Will take your word for it on the rest of it, only watched that clip.

 

[warhorse]

I know this was discussed earlier in the season but it has ended up a major concern for Souths in their lower grades. What has happened there? I know there was a lot of player movement up to with the colts coaches departing but they seem to be performing ok in Premier and Premier Colts. Big concern is their usually very strong lower grades and they aren't even fielding a 5th Grade this year. Its been a long time since I haven't seen a magpie logo splashed across the lower grade finals series.

Can anyone shed some light on this? Surely there isn't a link with the issues at the top end coaching?

@warhorse do you have any insights as a Souths man?

Sorry. I can't add anything extra to the conversation. Players are giving their all in the lower grades. Just one of those cyclical things, maybe.
In previous years, many of the Friday night subbies players would backup on Saturday in 5th grade. Those players are getting older and the one game on Friday night is enough.
Player numbers are definitely down on previous years but hopefully that is not a long term cycle.
Unfortunately it looks like Premier Grade will fall short of the finals unless all the Rugby stars fall in line and the Rugby gods smile upon them with some big upset wins by GPS and Norths over Bond and a big game by Souths over Brothers in the last game of the round.

 

[PhilClinton]

Certainly didn't cost Easts the game, just a pretty heavy handed decision given Dallans unwillingness to correctly apply the law when it came to the scrums later in the game.

If Dallan was reffing on the weekend, we have serious issues

 

[Marbig]

If Dallan was reffing on the weekend, we have serious issues

Woops, I'm seeing Murphy's as poorly as Damon saw the scrums on the weekend.

 

[MoneyBill685]

Ok I found it*

Last defender, and sticks his arm out (can't convince me that an arm outstretched as far as it can reach to your side is a natural movement in an attempted wrap). If that pass goes to hand bros score.

I fucken hate that knock downs are penalties, but it's pretty clearly a knock down.

there were two easts players coming across. You cant tell me that if the brothers attacker caught the ball he would of definitely scored with cover defence coming.

 

[JRugby2]

there were two easts players coming across. You cant tell me that if the brothers attacker caught the ball he would of definitely scored with cover defence coming.

Doesn't have to be definite - just probable. I think they probably score from there since they are < 10m of the line, it was a line break so moving at pace, it was wet and Brothers player who was going to receive the ball a few steps ahead of everyone else.. Guess we'll just agree to disagree?

 

[Strewthcobber]

39:30 on the Stan coverage if anyone wants a look.

I feel like I'm watching a different game to you guys. That's a very clear YC and PT for mine. Clearly intentional, and the cover were miles away.

 

[MoneyBill685]

39:30 on the Stan coverage if anyone wants a look.

I feel like I'm watching a different game to you guys. That's a very clear YC and PT for mine. Clearly intentional, and the cover were miles away.

I cant screen shot on stan on my phone so cant show you but if you play it 1 second further you will see both the easts 13 and winger coming across.

Also, if you scroll back maybe 3 seconds earlier to the line break, you will see the forward pass that Tom Brady would be proud of from the brothers hooker, that was again missed by the ref.

Have a look and let me know what you think.

 

[JRugby2]

I cant screen shot on stan on my phone so cant show you but if you play it 1 second further you will see both the easts 13 and winger coming across.

Also, if you scroll back maybe 3 seconds earlier to the line break, you will see the forward pass that Tom Brady would be proud of from the brothers hooker, that was again missed by the ref.

Have a look and let me know what you think.

 

[Strewthcobber]

I cant screen shot on stan on my phone so cant show you but if you play it 1 second further you will see both the easts 13 and winger coming across.

Also, if you scroll back maybe 3 seconds earlier to the line break, you will see the forward pass that Tom Brady would be proud of from the brothers hooker, that was again missed by the ref.

Have a look and let me know what you think.

Edit - beaten by JR2

I think you mean around here - although it's another view.

Only confirms my original call. Cover is nowhere near

 

[JRugby2]

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Those easts players are the closest defenders and clearly behind where the brothers receiver is (who is just in front of Damon). Around 10m from the try and moving at pace. No one else has a realistic chance of even touching that receiver let alone stopping them from scoring.

Might have been a forward pass in the lead up but hard to justify that this decision is wrong because of that.

 

[MoneyBill685]

Those easts players are the closest defenders and clearly behind where the brothers receiver is (who is just in front of Damon). Around 10m from the try and moving at pace. No one else has a realistic chance of even touching that receiver let alone stopping them from scoring.

Might have been a forward pass in the lead up but hard to justify that this decision is wrong because of that.

Ok fine i'll give it to you that decision was right i didn't see the wider view.

Ah well seems like Mr Club Centurian and clubs all time leading tryscorer got that right but missed the obvious forward pass.

"Might" have been forward. sheesh can we get a screen shot of that one too. seems like there's a bit of doubt there @JRugby2

 

[JRugby2]

Yeah sure it looked forward for sure, but the point I was making stands. That pass had absolutely nothing to do with the knock down call and didn't influence it in the slightest so seemed strange to bring it up given the conversation was squarely centred on that particular decision.

 

[Bulldog]

I thought the whole discussion centres around whether Murphy is a decent referee - whilst the rest of the jury debate the issue - this juror is convinced that I don’t want to see him in charge of the grand final regardless of who is in it.
I am convinced that he is not a great referee particularly at scrum time.
He has form on this front he actually apologised to the Easts coach last year after a sub-standard performance over scrum rulings in a late season game between Easts & Bond last year.

 

[MoneyBill685]

Yeah sure it looked forward for sure, but the point I was making stands. That pass had absolutely nothing to do with the knock down call and didn't influence it in the slightest so seemed strange to bring it up given the conversation was squarely centred on that particular decision.

hmm i was more discussing from a total referee performance hence why I also mentioned the poor scrum calls and missed forward pass in my previous posts.

 

[SouthernX]

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Next level analysis this

When is Stan giving you your own tv show? #kaferschalkboard

 

[JRugby2]

Next level analysis this

When is Stan giving you your own tv show? #kaferschalkboard

I'm going to assume absolutely no sarcasm in this at all, thank you.

 

[JRugby2]

I thought the whole discussion centres around whether Murphy is a decent referee - whilst the rest of the jury debate the issue - this juror is convinced that I don’t want to see him in charge of the grand final regardless of who is in it.
I am convinced that he is not a great referee particularly at scrum time.
He has form on this front he actually apologised to the Easts coach last year after a sub-standard performance over scrum rulings in a late season game between Easts & Bond last year.

It was, but Marbig called out this particular issue.

Haven’t seen any angle that suggests the yellow card and penalty try against Easts in the 26th minute wasn’t a dreadful decision.

 

[SouthernX]

I'm going to assume absolutely no sarcasm in this at all, thank you.

when someone bust out the teleprompter to break down game footage on a regular season hit up… that’s initiative