Brumbies v Crusaders Rd 16 (last) Fri 30th May @ GIO Stadium 7.35pm AEST

[dru]

The penalty a minute earlier had Wright rushing in to say go for the corner. No doubt you liked it. I'd have taken the 3 points then. But I lived in the England for 10 years, no doubt it altered my rugby thinking.

 

[cyclopath]

Noah Lolesio has been the starting 10 for the Brumbies for 6 years. Any flyhalf worth his salt would have organised his team into field position to take the 3 there. Very poor leadership

It's a skill, and it seems that Aus teams just don't train for it. It has never been a strength in Aus rugby. Well, not since Mark Ella.

 

[cyclopath]

The penalty a minute earlier had Wright rushing in to say go for the corner. No doubt you liked it. I'd have taken the 3 points then. But I lived in the England for 10 years, no doubt it altered my rugby thinking.

Look, taking 3 is is not bad, per se, but the maul has always been a Brumbies strength, and they had a possible chance of a Crusaders YC with the sequence of penalties. The first thing I thought when they kicked the penalty was "there is too much time left" and the Crusaders could get deep into the Brumbies 22 off the kick-off. Which they did.
Hard for the Brumbies.

 

[dru]

Have you ever heard “Counter ruck is good!” so much in a game? I mean probably not since the last Doleman game

Generally the counter ruck by the Crusaders was good. I can remember just one, but the counter was fine, just thought some of the weight in the ruck did not come through the gate.

The Crusaders were testing limits of on-side and disruption-inside-the-ruck all game. Is this new? Is a ref who decides to be circumspect in controlling it new? Have we not played Kiwi teams for 50 years?

Doleman did not cost this game. With the way the game is reffed in Super Rugby he was pretty fine.

The game was won/lost in the last 20 mins (maybe as well in the last 20 of the first half with dopey in-play kicks) and the Brumby decision making could have changed how that played out.

It wan't Doleman.

 

[dru]

Look, taking 3 is is not bad, per se, but the maul has always been a Brumbies strength, and they had a possible chance of a Crusaders YC with the sequence of penalties. The first thing I thought when they kicked the penalty was "there is too much time left" and the Crusaders could get deep into the Brumbies 22 off the kick-off. Which they did.
Hard for the Brumbies.

Oh, I'm not arguing your position. Looking back you are completely on the pulse. I'd have taken the 3 earlier all the same. And it would simply have given the Crusaders more time to set up the ending. Though I would also have set up for a drop kick at the end.

 

[cyclopath]

Oh, I'm not arguing your position. Looking back you are completely on the pulse. I'd have taken the 3 earlier all the same. And it would simply have given the Crusaders more time to set up the ending. Though I would also have set up for a drop kick at the end.

Sadly, that's un-Australian!

 

[dru]

Doing the math it also requires the Crusaders taking 5 not 7. Anyway, Brumbies a deserved #3 on the table, arguably could/should have been #2.

If Reds end up #4 we have a Brumby-Red final yeah? Let's hope Hurricanes do us all a favour.

 

[Heavyd]

Morgs has just absolutely given it to the match officials. He is right. It’s cost them a home final, gate takings and has altered the outcome of the finals series.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

So odd how pro players can train all week and not take 20 mins to sort out a drop kick plan to, you know, win the actual rugby football match. Just plow into brick wall defences, forever 15 metres away from the opponent's tryline.

Good counter ruck? they were all off their feet? Doleman losing the game here.

He always does this. Refs the scrums to the most arcane letter of the law then once players start moving around at speed in open play he says fuckit I cant keep up do what you like

 

[Major Tom]

He could open his eyes and see a blatant knock on? In saying that he missed a 1000 knock ons towards the end from both teams. Claimed a few were “off the foot”.

 

[Pokinacha]

Can’t bitch about the terrible officiating at the end of the season. They’ve all been dog water all year.

 

[dru]

Morgs has just absolutely given it to the match officials. He is right. It’s cost them a home final, gate takings and has altered the outcome of the finals series.

Just to be sure I Follow you:

• Qualifying finals – 1 v 6, 2 v 5, 3 v 4 with the top-ranked team hosting

So Brumbies get a home Qualifying final.

• Semi-Finals – three qualifying winners plus highest ranked loser: Teams re-ranked with 1 v 4 and 2 v 3

So possibly costs you a semi-final home game?

 

[Strewthcobber]

It's weird isn't it? There were 27 drop goals in the NRL last year. Way more than any rugby competitin. You'd think that influence would flow on to our game more than it does.

 

[dru]

He could open his eyes and see a blatant knock on? In saying that he missed a 1000 knock ons towards the end from both teams. Claimed a few were “off the foot”.

MT, you were talking about counter rucks. Now that the discussion has changed - 1000 knocks ons, I have said it a billion times, don't exaggerate. Some were off the foot. And one I can think of that wasn't. Think there might have been one the other way as well.

Doleman was fine.

 

[dru]

So odd how pro players can train all week and not take 20 mins to sort out a drop kick plan to, you know, win the actual rugby football match. Just plow into brick wall defenses, forever 15 metres away from the opponents tryline.

It's got me beat. I'd have known what to do here in u16s. For reference I played u16 C.

 

[Strewthcobber]

It must be coached. Drop goals are something like 30-40% chance of being successful.

Our coaches must believe there is a higher chance of getting a penalty and kicking it in these kinds of situations.

 

[Major Tom]

Brumbs had their chances and took too long to adjust to Doleman. But he’s not fine. He’s a bloody hard watch. The ruck is an absolute mess. It’s chaos with players off their feet and in the side constantly! The discussion is his reffing performance. That includes the passage of play that had so many knock ons it wasn’t funny. Which culminated with the Reece one. In that instance I’m sure someone like Gardner would have asked the TMO to check it. Then there were the scrums. Took an age to call set, no wonder they were going early. In closing he has an odd feel for the game that I just can’t cop.

 

[cyclopath]

Brumbs had their chances and took too long to adjust to Doleman. But he’s not fine. He’s a bloody hard watch. The ruck is an absolute mess. It’s chaos with players off their feet and in the side constantly! The discussion is his reffing performance. That includes the passage of play that had so many knock ons it wasn’t funny. Which culminated with the Reece one. In that instance I’m sure someone like Gardner would have asked the TMO to check it. Then there were the scrums. Took an age to call set, no wonder they were going early. In closing he has an odd feel for the game that I just can’t cop.

Sums him up.
But yes, the Brumbies did have their chances.
But they are still there and still a good prospect. But they will need to be more ruthless to deal with the teams they have to face.

 

[griffins]

Morgs has just absolutely given it to the match officials. He is right. It’s cost them a home final, gate takings and has altered the outcome of the finals series.

Probably saved them from losing more money to be honest. Crowd was embarrassing again tonight.

 

[Pfitzy]

odd how pro players can train all week and not take 20 mins to sort out a drop kick plan to, you know, win the actual rugby football match.

UN. A. STRAY. YAN.