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Bob Loudon (25)
Thanks Flavio for responding. Cheers
NSW CAS Rugby 2021
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Ron Walden (29)
The kitchen sink, the living room, the bathroom and a few extra rooms in the boarding house! It would be almost a bit embarrassing if they didn’t win considering the lengths they have gone to. Here’s hoping Knox, Waverley, or another CAS team can cause an upset.
Flavio
Ward Prentice (10)
Maybe a beer at the Bluegum prior to the game
WLF
Arch Winning (36)
Snort, you never fail to convince me of your logical prowess for things past and future.
Having recently read a number of viewpoints 1 thing, other than your overview, strikes me as obvious.
A number of well informed people are yet to be convinced that this CAS comp is clearly decided.
History may be just that, but sometimes for VERY good reasons.
I suspect this weekends results may also prove little as we approach the 1st round of CAS comp next weekend.
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Fred Wood (13)
Agree Wlf. But a very strong CAS side is brewing. Given the barker 10 sounds to be the real deal I assume that Morrison from
Knox will be squeezed to 15 even though the current knox 15 (Tucker) is more than capable... some interesting selection debates to be had. I would imagine that barker and waves make up the bulk of the side but bray, black, Morrison and McLeod would be my certainties from knox with Goddard, saunders and tucker more than capable at that level. I haven’t seen barker or waves yet so they may be stronger in the those positions (9,13,15). This CAS side feels similar to 2017
Knox will be squeezed to 15 even though the current knox 15 (Tucker) is more than capable... some interesting selection debates to be had. I would imagine that barker and waves make up the bulk of the side but bray, black, Morrison and McLeod would be my certainties from knox with Goddard, saunders and tucker more than capable at that level. I haven’t seen barker or waves yet so they may be stronger in the those positions (9,13,15). This CAS side feels similar to 2017
WLF
Arch Winning (36)
BBR, It's obviously not possible at the moment to pick a CAS side but 1 thing is for sure, the forward pack will be enormous and very powerful.
WTF?
Tom Lawton (22)
It was a looooooong lunch Axel. Lee’s Fortuna Court perhaps?
Big Papi
Herbert Moran (7)
Perhaps even the Crows Nest Hotel after this long lunch? Maybe?
Hector
Peter Burge (5)
Aloysius at home vs St Gregs is listed as:
1. Leo Maher
2. Edward Sisson
3. Austin Clarke (C)
4. Ned McDonagh
5. Mac Stephen
6. Charlie Bruton
7. Tom Mathias
8. Harry Hill
9. Hugh Albert
10. Francis Dunkin
11. Aidan Thomas
12. Charlie Bruton
13. Tom Wood
14. Bailey Hughes
15. Manus Bailey
Bruton is a good player, and has played both 12 and 6, but unlikely to cover two spots on Saturday (!) so someone must be coming in at 6 like Joey Fallon and this is a typo on the school listings.
Aloys scrappy and a bit ill disciplined against Stannies last week (and a bit of that from the opposition too). They'll need to fix that based on the report from St Gregs' last hit out. Defence greatly improved, but the attack needs to fire. 13 is a class player (15 not far away from that category as well) so plenty of involvement from them would help to get the attack more fluent and on the front foot.
WLF
Arch Winning (36)
To all GPS and CAS supporters,
I just happened to see that the annual Rep game between these two associations is June 10, so not far off!
That means the CAS will have had 2 comp rounds and the GPS 1 comp round.
I know this happens every year, but in the good old days, it happened after the last comp game was played, I assume many can remember this occurence!
So whilst players have had a number of games under their belt, eg the cross association games etc, you wouldn't imagine selectors having been at many/any of these games, or necessarily the best games to be at, which makes me think these Rep teams are chosen way too early. I know politics always prevails as to who is already selected, even before strapping on a boot, but wow, to me this does not give all boys an equal opportunity to press for selection, and is way too early in the season.
This has been the process in recent years but can anyone explain why?
Keen for other peoples views!
By the way, we all enjoy defeating the other foe in these match-ups, but I would still much rather win my association!
I just happened to see that the annual Rep game between these two associations is June 10, so not far off!
That means the CAS will have had 2 comp rounds and the GPS 1 comp round.
I know this happens every year, but in the good old days, it happened after the last comp game was played, I assume many can remember this occurence!
So whilst players have had a number of games under their belt, eg the cross association games etc, you wouldn't imagine selectors having been at many/any of these games, or necessarily the best games to be at, which makes me think these Rep teams are chosen way too early. I know politics always prevails as to who is already selected, even before strapping on a boot, but wow, to me this does not give all boys an equal opportunity to press for selection, and is way too early in the season.
This has been the process in recent years but can anyone explain why?
Keen for other peoples views!
By the way, we all enjoy defeating the other foe in these match-ups, but I would still much rather win my association!
rod skellet
Desmond Connor (43)
Hi WLF. Yes the CAS sides are selected after the 2nd match of the CAS season which is June 5th. I agree with you that it is not ideal as some key match ups will yet to be played. That said the school sports masters get dictated by calendars which are pretty hard to juggle. It is why the trial games are important and most kids know this. What is even worse is the pathway to Gen Blue selection is very opaque, with some players probably already tapped on the shoulder to indicate subject to fitness/injury that they are in. Its why the traditional Aust Schools champs at Riverview has no relevance now as you can be in the Gen Blue side without participating in that tournament.
Snort
Nev Cottrell (35)
Agree, WLF, but I think this is a consequence of the four-term school year and the need to play the Schools championship in the mid-year break. I doubt it can be changed. Nor does there seem to be a great will to change it: I agree with Rod's observation that the championships have now been devalued to an unfortunate extent.
I also think your last point is right. I remember a few years back, there was an Associated Schools side that needed (for the balance of the team) a player to play in a particular position. He argued that playing in another position would improve his chances of CAS selection. His coach told him: "Maybe. But no-one remembers who plays CAS. Everyone remembers who wins premierships."
WLF
Arch Winning (36)
Snort and Rod, everything you have both said is spot on, much of which I did know, but i think we all agree Rep stuff is what it is. Typically most of a rep side is right but it's tough for a bolter, or someone who has been injured, who is over looked, even though he is probably better than a well connected player, and that is NOT, the fault of the player.
The comp IS what is really remembered!
Love2Scrum
Billy Sheehan (19)
Totally agree with your comments WLF. As Rod Skillet mentioned, the Head Masters from the different school associations are bound by their yearly sporting calendars. I suppose not all people are rugby crazy like many of us on this forum. If it was up us the boys would be playing rugby all year round.
With the representative season in a month’s time I will say the selectors have hard task at hand especially in the CAS competition.
Having watched Barker, Knox and Waverley this year I’d have to say majority of the CAS 1st XV team will be made up players from these schools. All three schools mentioned have big, strong, mobile and skilful forwards who provide clean and clear ball for backs to weave their magic.
Somehow I can’t see the GPS 1st XV team matching the CAS team in size in the forwards which might be a difference however they should match them everywhere else on the park.
Cheers
Love2Scrum
WLF
Arch Winning (36)
You are a gentleman L2S,
What I luv is your GPS passion, truth being that all these boys. from both associations, are very good players, have probably minimal team cohesion, so who knows in a Rep side!
I admire that you have watched a number of games that involved our CAS schools, I can only assume you are a proud Shoreman!
If you really want the low down on who is the best team and the best players in the CAS, best to talk to Rod Skellet and Snort who have seen their own teams v numerous other schools, many times.
Love2Scrum
Billy Sheehan (19)
Thanks for your kind words WLF.
I May be hard but I’ll give credit where it’s due. For those of you who have read my comments this far, please note that I’m only making my comments on the games I’ve watched so far. For players ie students who read this forum please don’t let my comments or others let you down. Train hard, play hard and continue to believe in yourself and never give up.
WLF, Skillet, Snort & Yourself always give this forum a neutral and honest opinions (Some May Disagree) Keep it up guys.
Cheers
Love2scrum